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Geraldine Doogue interviews Bernard Hickey and Saul Eslake on New Zealand and Australia’s housing unaffordability.
1 minute 50 seconds to 17 minutes 30 seconds in the podcast below.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/7-august-2021/13480276