THAMES STAR 8 August 1888, p.2 [Volume XX Issue 4684]

“Socialism as Propounded by Hyndman”

At the meeting of the Debating Society last evening Mr EH Taylor read a paper on “Socialism” and gave a very able and exhaustive digest of the rise and development of Socialism as propounded by Mr Hyndman.

He referred to the time in the history of England between the end of the fourteenth to the beginning of the sixteenth century, when the working classes were better off in every respect than they have ever been since. This has been very aptly termed by Socialists the Golden Age of the People.

Mr Taylor traced back the origin of Socialism to the peasant insurrection of 1381 which was fostered by the growing ideas of liberty and equality and the enforcement of the system of villainage by the lords, nobles and landlords. Against this tyranny they rebelled, and Wat Tyler, a priest named John Ball, and others came to the front as leaders of the insurrection.

About this time, what were called craft-guilds were formed and are described as combinations of the working classes for the maintenance of their freedom. These craft-guilds were, we presume, something similar to the trade unions of the present day, and against the former special Acts were passed which, however, as Mt Taylor showed, proved abortive owing to the social tendencies of the people.

Mt Taylor, in speaking of the wrongful intrigues which about this time existed between the so-called upper classes and the Roman Catholic Church for political purposes, expressed his utter disbelief of the stories that have been told by Protestant Divines of the debauchery and hypocrisy of the Roman Catholic Church and of the squandering of the revenues of the Church in riotous living.

In the Church, he said, we have seen even in its bitterest times, more equality and opportunities to rise than in politics and social life. Outside the Church, a man must bow down to some Baron whether he be a gentleman or a ruffian. But inside the Church we find Sextus V rose from the gutter, and Nicholas Breakspear Adrian IV was a poor labourer’s son. Many of the most distinguished ecclesiastics were of humble birth. Then we have much to be thankful for in that many things have been preserved for us in the Catholic Church which we should not now be blessed with had it not been for her safekeeping.

One significant fact, Mr Taylor stated, was that so long as the Church held her great power and vast acreage, permanent pauperism was unknown. During the People’s Golden Age, land was regarded as the means for raising food and stock, not as a capital to return so much rent in order that the one might live at ease while the one who did the work might simply stave off starvation. In this respect, if in no other, Englishmen then were certainly more independent and vigorous than those of the present day.

This happy Age, however, passed away and was followed by an Iron Age in which owing to troublous times in England the nobles began to decay. Their estates were reduced and they had to discharge their retainers who became vagrants, beggars and wage-earners, their very lands being seized by the nobles. The result of this land-grabbing was that a population, before prosperous, was reduced to poverty and the gravest discontent was caused which culminated in great risings during the period from 1536 to 1568. These were partly caused as well by religious bitterness.

At the accession of Henry VIII, the lands of the Church comprised about one third of the total lands of the Kingdom and were held in trust by the Church for the people, the funds derived for these lands being for the maintenance of schools, universities, roads, hospitals and poor relief. When Henry seized these lands and distributed them to his favourites, the last hold of the people on their soil was wrenched away and they were at once deprived of their livelihood, shelter, schools and alms.

Thus is seen how Socialism grew among the masses who, feeling themselves unjustly oppressed and robbed of their birthright rose against their great enemies – the nobility and gentry of the country.

Mr Taylor here mentioned the risings that at this time took place, and referring to Robert Kett, one of the leaders of the Norfolk rising in 1549, quoted pages from an address delivered to him, the last sentence of which: “Patriotic aristocrats employ foreign soldiers to reduce their country to subjection after robbing and starving the people”, Mr Taylor said was applicable to the present state of Ireland.

Socialism is a protest against such a cruel system and while it does not fight for the equal distribution of property, it does say that property should be so distributed that t would be impossible for one man to be extremely poor and another excessively rich.

After describing the various modes in which Socialism has been developed since the reigns of Henry VIII and Queen Elizabeth, all of which are very interesting, but which our spece compels us to curtail, Mr Taylor spoke of the Chartist movement which reached its culminating point in 1842 and concluded in the following words: “Since Chartist times, the Socialists have been engaged in efforts to repeal numerous laws that disgrace our statute book, and also to pass numerous others for the social wellbeing of the wage-earner. The Factories Act and numerous Amendments, The Ten Hours Bill and Extension of the Franchise may be quoted as examples.

Socialists principally engage themselves in educating the working man to a higher standard of political and social intelligence in such questions as the land laws, land and its uses, the agricultural laborer in relation to land, the artisans of our city and how to tide over periods of depression, centralization of masses of people, local self-government. Co-operation, production, exchange, our city workers, overpopulation, able-bodied pauperism, the poor laws, international labor movements, &c.

Socialists watch the history of human development in social life and utilize change, development, evolution, revolution, and sometimes decay, to forward human interests. This much we can say that Socialists have proved, that all movements for the benefit of the greater number have begun among the working classes and worked upward through all shades of society. Reforms never have begun among the lords and nobles and descended to bless humanity in its struggle for life. Socialism is opposition to force, rapine, trickery and fraud. And it is now mostly seen in the spread of the land nationalization scheme, no new idea, for Thomas Spence of Newcastle formulated it 110 year since.

Now, while some may think these things a dream, this is a fact, that Socialism is increasing to a marvellous extent, and politicians are being driven almost unconsciously toward Socialistic measures. Socialist leaders are mostly profound God-fearing men and this is how they express themselves in words, and the principle that moves them to work for “the greatest good for the greatest number.”

An interesting discussion followed, in the course of which Messrs McGowan, Heriot, Wood, Martin and Haselden took part, after which Mr Taylor replied.


The Reserve Bank of Australia’s submission to the Inquiry [#52] doesn’t mention that a zero interest rate policy implies infinite land prices.

Maybe the RBA doesn’t want to offend (1) real estate agents whose fee scales have them committed to higher and higher land prices, and (2) the banking industry whose easy credit/debt policy pumps up land prices and its super-profits?

It’s more than obvious that Joe and Joan Sixpack don’t feature at all in RBA considerations.

But then, as Poirot mentioned, it’s land prices and taxation generate inflation, not simply “excess money” or “excess demand”, and the RBA are not likely to advise governments (of any persuasion) about that truism, either.


….. solves the mystery of the economy.


Bon jour!


Poirot sets the scenario

I have a mystery for you, mes amis. Although the Australian Consumer Price Index it does not show significant inflation to have occurred during recent times, the value of the Australian currency it continues to fall and it has fallen for more than a century, as has the dollar of the Americans.

Clues and responses

“Yes, that’s correct, but it’s no mystery, Hercule. The price of all goods and services has risen. That’s inflation.”

Non, non, mes amis! What is it that is the cause of these prices to rise?

“That’s easy! Excess demand. There is too much demand for the undersupply of goods and services.”

But the capitalist system, does it not immediately by the invisible hand adjust to this undersupply of goods and services?

“Well, yes it does, but there’s too much money in the system.”

Oh, it is too much money, then? How does this excess money get into the system, mes amis?

“It should be obvious to everybody right now. Clearly, the government is printing it!”

But why is it that the government is printing too much money? Does it not infer that it is the government trying to hide or repair, how do you say, “an underlying problem”?  

“Yes, there’s been too much welfarism. The government is spending far too much in supporting public health, the jobless and the poor!”

Why is it that you do not also add “too much in defence spending”, mes amis? So, we do not need any of these public expenditures? Surely, if all of these were to be abolished is it not that the people and the economy, they would all fall into “the heap”? No, mes amis, there is so much more than the government spending and printing of money that it is creating this inflation.

“What is it then, Hercule?”

Poirot has a solution!

Gather round closely, mes amis! I have an important solution to announce to you. The mystery of the economy, it is solved! When we see the, how do you say, distinction between the taxation of incomes and goods and services and the placing of a levy upon the value of the land that each one of us holds, the latter it is fair because it is the exact measure of what we take from society for our exclusive use, whereas the arbitrary taxation, it is not fair at all!

The taxes, they are also unfair because they are passed on in the prices, and they have been inflating the cost of the Australian goods and services at every point in the businesses, but the consumer price index, it does not tell us that the taxes act to double the prices of everything and to have concomitantemente cut in half the returns to the Australian labour and the capital! Moreover, does not the banking system create money and inflation as it generates the mortgage debts against the escalating land prices? Land, it has no cost of production, no?

And, yes mes amis, the society, it does exist, but it is the taxation and the land prices that are destroying it!

“They’re remarkable findings, Hercule! But if we were to abolish taxes and put a levy on land values, that would double wages and profits without creating tax-generated inflation, but land prices would fall also! Yes, that’s anti-inflationary, too, but can governments and the Reserve bank of Australia afford to let land prices fall?”  

You have come to the critical cross of the roads, mes amis! The Australian governments must allow the land prices to fall, because the high taxes and the high land prices interfere with the invisible hand from doing its work. This interference distorts all of the Australian markets which include the stock market and the marketing of bonds.

And, now, what do we say about the people of Australia, their governments and the Reserve Bank of Australia who will fail to let their land prices fall, mes amis? Well, that it another mystery! That will resolve itself badly in 2026 because that is the end year of the 18-year cycle in the real estate and in the Long Wave of Mr Nikolai Kondratieff. For not attending to this failure, the big correction in the markets will have its terrible way with Australians!

“That bad, Poirot?”

Oui, mes amisfâcheusement.